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C'est trés bien 8) , justement aprés avoir lu ton post je comprend encore moins pourquoi JJR se rabaisse à émettre des critiques sur le Musée et JANSSEN. :roll:

Moi ce qui m'interesse c'est le musée qui à pignon sur rue et que je considére interessant. Les coulisses beaucoup moins surtout que les blanches colombes n'existent pas dans ce micro milieu.

Le fait qu'un touriste lambda (défoncé) puisse atterir dans ce Musée consacré au BMX est trés bien.

Quand je lis ces histoires de pactes etc, etc c'est toujours des trucs qui partent en couille à l'arrivée...

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j'essaye juste d'expliquer et d'exposer les informations dont j'ai pu avoir connaissance,

je sais tres bien aussi que les pactes ou ententes sur les achats de materiel sont une utopie, ça crée souvent plus de discorde au final que de bien

je trouve aussi tres interressant le concept de ce musée surtout dans un pays ou le velo est roi, a voir je pense

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Oui à voir c'est sur si on aime le bicross.

Le reste....... :roll:

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ça peut creer des vocations,les enfants sont toujours assez emerveillés devant les bmx, et va savoir peut etre un nouvelle "chrome" generation! :mrgreen:

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je trouve cela super, car on a vite oublié le bmx dès l'arrivée du vtt...alors que le 20 pouces à fait vivre rêver et rider beaucoup de monde ds les années 80's 90's..........

vraiment sympa ce genre d'initiative!






REVE PAS TA VIE...............VIS TES REVES!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
je fais du "vandammmmmmmmmm attitude" moi maintenant ok je sors :bye:
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Dear guests,

(I'm sorry this in not in the French language but I'm studying/learning your language right now)

As owner of BMX Museum NL I feel and have the need to react on this topic.

First of all let me introduce myself. I'm 40 years young, married and 3 kids. In the '80 BMX was everything for me. We designed our own BMX track and build it together with our parents in those days. I spend a lot ot time on the track just racing and trying to beat the others.

I was not a topper, absolutely not, but I loved (and still love) this BMX sport. I spended to much time in those days so the study went completely wrong so I had to stop BMX racing and that hurts.

So 20 years later I started to search my own 1984 GT Pro Series which I still didn't find.... During this search I've found a lot of Old School bikes/frames/parts which I started to collect and to buy. After 50 bikes/frames I decided to set-up a real BMX Museum NL. It took me 6 years to collect the items, it took me 2 years to start this BMX Museum NL. And yes, I'm proud of it, it is there now.

My BMX Museum NL contains a lot of brands; MBK, Hutch, Skyway, National Pro, PK Ripper, Quadangle, Redline, Patterson, Raleigh, Vector, Wheels, Profile, GHP, Mongoose, it's almost all there. (Still no CW Phaze one....)

When I started (6 years ago) only JJR and me were searching for old bikes on the internet. No problems at all. Sometimes I've "won", sometimes Johan "won".

2 years back several guys started to collect Old School bikes also so the "competition" started which was a pity for Johan and for me... but that's live..... prices raised.

But why this JJR topic on this forum? I think I know why.

The competition is getting harder as I told you. But people who are selling their bikes often likes the idea that their bike will be in my BMX Museum NL. So they sell their bike to me or even donate/give it to me. And this hurt for other collectors.

The Old School BMX scene in the Neterlands is bigger as you should think. Yes, I agree, on our forum are not that many guests and always the same one but I receive a lot of remarks/compliments/questions via my emailaddress so there's still a scene over here, absolutely.

After the opening of BMX Museum NL last Sunday by Mr. Gerrit Does I already received a lot of positive remarks so the scene is still alive.

No it's not an obsession, and no I'm not selfish, but I want to have the best Old School BMX collection/museum in the Netherlands, that's my drive.

The reason why I'm "fast" during the day on internet is because of the fact people send me sms's and/or emails when there's something special on the net. They inform and support me, I'm not searching at all during my work on the internet, because they like to see my BMX Museum NL to grow.

Collecting over 6 years means you can have a lot of stuff because I needed from every brand at least one bike. So I get a lot of questoins of people asking me if I like to sell parts and/or bikes. My answer is NO because I'm not a trader, I'm a collector, so no selling, exchanging parts is possible with closed wallets. So people get irritated because they say "you already have a lot", not knowing it cost me a lot of time to search for those parts and to pick them up all over Europe. It's not that easy as you all know. No selling means "troubles" and that means irritations over here as it looks know....

In his topic Johan didn't mention I've offered him to put (some) of his great bikes in my museum because he really has a great collection, no doubt about! Must be said. I also gave him some Kuwahara decals to finish one of his projects.

The 50/50 deal is quiet complicated but in some few words; he bougth the Hutch pedals of this deal and I bought the whole package, not knowning at that moment that the pedals already where sold by the seller. But the seller made a package deal for me, including those pedals and I accepted it. After the deal was made and paid I understood JJR bought the pedals. And that ended up killing our relationship between JJR and me.

The text on the internet which JJR showed you in Dutch is not an advertisment which I've put on the internet. It was done by somebody else. I didn't take it away (I even can't) and I didn't complain (that's not my style).

It's a pitty that this personal story/irritations ended up as a topic in a French forum. I'm glad I was informed that this discussion was going on on this form, because I really didn't know, so that I can react on this topic harming my BMX Museum dream and thoughts.

I now take to change to invite you all in the French Old School BMX scene to see my BMX Museum NL when ever you're in The Netherlands. I thnk it will be bringing some good memories for you.

Maybe we even can arrange a Museum and track tour over here with old school bikes? So that you take your bikes with you and we'll look for tracks over here where we can race, make pictures and most important of all can have a laugh! Because that's all about. I don't like to "fight" at all, I like to have a good time with my BMX Museum NL.

Please feel free to react/reply on my topic.

Best regards,

Mike Janssen
BMX Museum NL
www.bmxmuseum.nl

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Thank you for your clear answer.

Longue vie à ton musée du BMX. 8) 8) 8)

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Message par Mano »

...i do not want to take part in the JJR/Janssen "conflict", but it's nice to see mister Janssen here in our forum!!
Thanks for your answer , Welcome and :clap: for your museum!!
keep it on!!

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One thing for sure......english lessons for free today :mrgreen:

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Avez-vous vu un mx 500 pour Seb/Have you seen a mx 500 for Seb
J'arrête, je suis le maillon faible/enough, I'm the weakest link :mrgreen:

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Welcome on here Mike,
Thanks for taking the time to introduce yourself on here,
always good to have too sides of a story although I usually don't really bother who does what to who..
Sour deals, scores, hidden tricks and friends are part of the hobby, all mixed up sometimes...
It's all about fun and child bikes in the end, so not always really worth the hard times...

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Hey TCD,
Tu peux postuler pour mon poste actuel avec un english aussi bon :wink:

By the way Mike, welcome on this french forum :bye:

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Jack a écrit :Hey TCD,
Tu peux postuler pour mon poste actuel avec un english aussi bon :wink:

By the way Mike, welcome on this french forum :bye:

Non, Jack :wink: et je ferais jamais aussi bien que toi pour le placement produit "individualisé"
Toi tu sais gagner les consommateurs un par un :mrgreen: , ils savent pas encore ce qu'ils perdent dans ta future ancienne boite 8)

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Jack a écrit :One thing for sure......english lessons for free today :mrgreen:

Intéressant/interesting
Pays-BasNetherlands
Avez-vous vu un mx 500 pour Seb/Have you seen a mx 500 for Seb
J'arrête, je suis le maillon faible/enough, I'm the weakest link :mrgreen:
excellent!!!!!!!!! je voulais dire à Seb qu'il demande pour le 500, tu as deja fait la traduction
:mrgreen: :clap:

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Ohhhhhhhhhh Merci M'sieur, que d'éloges à mon sujet sans réellemnt me connaître :oops:

Dois m'arranger pour faire livrer des produits défectueux en Gironde pour accroître ton activité? Des produits qui pourraient casser de belles dentitions par exemple..... :oops: :mrgreen:

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Message par JJR »

:bike:
So i see people can write english here :D
Just i want to ad that i'm not jealous at all to Mike Janssen!
Just i wrote this reply in the morning and i must learn not to do that.
In the mornings I can say things that better not been said.
But I found it so interesting that advertisement (was not mine!)....
Done is done and hope that you guys don't have a wrong idea about me :oops:
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