salut, d apres les explications, les hollywood et pro racer etait quasi identiques voir identique a cette epoque et l endroit des soudures dependait surtout du gars qui fabriquait le velo, de l arrondi du looptail obtenu dependait la soudure donc ca pouvait varier d un velo a l autre, certains hollywood ont d ailleur le tube arriere au dessus du top tube
voila en gros les explications
l histoire des hollywood chrome par erreur...... existe effectivement et serait pour des modeles de 85
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again not all Japanese frames have those lower seatstays.Mathieu Puigsegur a écrit :dernier mail recu, si j ai bien compris les versions japonaises des pro racer et des hollywood etaient identiques et etaient soudées comme le mien
i've seen a Jap baby blue Hollywood and looks the same as your frame.
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This is what Rich Hutchins Jr had to say about the Hollywood during my talk with him about the Hutch days (interview on my website):Mathieu Puigsegur a écrit :l histoire des hollywood chrome par erreur...... existe effectivement et serait pour des modeles de 85
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JJR: The Hollywood. Mike Miranda's Hutch. I remember that the Hollywood was slightly different then the Pro Racer and after the pro racer used the same design as the Hollywood. Is that correct? And what was the difference between the pro racer and the Hollywood? Or was it just the color?
Rich: The Hollywood frame was basically the pro frame what we did do was took all of the frames that had blemishes in them that we could not sell we would strip and send for powder coating and Mike picked his colors because too this point we only did chrome that was our thing chrome. I remember way back at the beginning of hutch me and a friend of mine would take the color anodized items and use oven cleaner to strip and then buff the products to sell back then no one did polished items or chrome on alum. so we did it all.
So color was new to us and that is how we came up with Hollywood series.
JJR: you said the hollywood was a painted pro racer, but did hutch ever sold chrome hollywoods because i've seen chrome hollywood seatstay decals.
Rich: some were chrome plated at a couple of different times just because that frame was so close to the pro racer it was hard for my uncle to tell the difference sometimes hollywood did have suttle changes not enough for most people to pick up on
we had those decals made after we caught the problem realized we had a lot of chrome ones in stock miss labeled we had to back though and reopen all boxes had girls re-sticker them so you will find these both ways out there.
JJR: and about what changes are you talking about?
Rich: all of these changes i would have to go back to jigs and drawings to look at to remember i do know miner changes
JJR: what was the difference between the pro racer and the hollywood? I remember first production run they were different and after the pro racer took the hollywood size. Is that right?
Rich: don't remember but i think you are right have to remember all of this was happening so fast for us most of the time we were fling by the seat of our pants
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